OE Cannot download these RealMedia streams

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Defenestration 12/01/2004 08:35 pm
I`m trying to download all the Strauss Music samples from this Amazon page:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005B5NM/qid%3D1101949496/sr%3D2-1/ref%3Dsr%5F2%5F11%5F1/202-1056153-2028643

They all resolve to links similar to (the 0103 in the filename is different for each sample):

pnm://rm.content.loudeye.com/~qqq-600111/0290459_0103_07_0002.ra

I created a project to download all media files, however they don`t download. OE attempts the download and shows the length of all samples as being 60 seconds, but never gets past 0 seconds.

How can I download these music samples with OE ?

I`m using the latest beta OE Pro 3.5.1869.
Veblin 12/02/2004 03:59 am
pnm://rm.content.loudeye.com/~qqq-600111/0290459_0103_07_0002.ra

Some pnm protocol support has been added recently to the program, but it only works for some RealServer versions. I think Oleg is working on trying to make pnm protocol work with all RealServer versions, but I don`t know where he is on that.

In this case these streams can also be downloaded with rtsp protocol.
rtsp://rm.content.loudeye.com/~qqq-600111/0290459_0103_07_0002.ra

Something Oleg could probably more easily do right now is when it tries to download pnm protocol streams and it doesn`t work, it should recognize the pnm protocol error it receives, and try downloading with rtsp protocol instead trying both the standard port 554 and pnm port 7070.

As a work around for now you can use the Advanced Project settings with URL Substitutes.
URL: pnm*
Replace: pnm
With: rtsp
Veblin 12/02/2004 04:51 am
Additional information.

These streams can also be downloaded with http protocol.
http://rm.content.loudeye.com/~qqq-600111/0290459_0103_07_0002.ra

You can use the Advanced Project settings with URL Substitutes.
URL: pnm*
Replace: pnm
With: http
Defenestration 12/02/2004 05:25 am
Works perfectly. Thanks Veblin! I`ll remember to try that in the future.

>Something Oleg could probably more easily do right now is when it tries to download pnm protocol
>streams and it doesn`t work, it should recognize the pnm protocol error it receives, and try
>downloading with rtsp protocol instead trying both the standard port 554 and pnm port 7070.

I agree. I think Oleg already has this in mind (See "Streaming RA files over RTSP through HTTP proxy" thread)

PS. You don`t happen to know of any free software for converting RealAudio files to WMA ?
Oleg Chernavin 12/02/2004 09:10 am
I just added the PNM to RTSP redirect in case when PNM stream cannot be loaded from Helix servers. I plan to release 3.5 version today with this change included.

Best regards,
Oleg Chernavin
MP Staff
Defenestration 12/02/2004 06:53 pm
Thanks Oleg! The default timeout value of 60 seconds is a bit long in these cases though.

I wanted to reduce the timeout to about 10 seconds. Do you think this is likely to cause a problem with timeouts on other downloads like normal web sites (I`m on a 1MBit connection) ?

If so, what timeout value would you recommend ?
Oleg Chernavin 12/03/2004 04:12 am
I think, 20 seconds is enough if you have fast connection. However some servers may be quite slow, but this is rare nowdays.

Oleg.