Did you know that links within a page which had "&" in them, are being stripped to only a "&".
Since I am using your software for validating our pages, these pages no longer validates...
Daniel.
Since I am using your software for validating our pages, these pages no longer validates...
Daniel.
Daniel,
Can you tell me few examples of such links? In most links these &-amp; combinations should be converted to & symbols. Perhaps there are some rare examples where this conversion should not be done.
Thank you!
Best regards,
Oleg Chernavin
MP Staff
Can you tell me few examples of such links? In most links these &-amp; combinations should be converted to & symbols. Perhaps there are some rare examples where this conversion should not be done.
Thank you!
Best regards,
Oleg Chernavin
MP Staff
Oleg,
I am talking of any link passing more than one parameter. We are coding them with &-amp; for page validation purposes.
Here is an example: http://www.cio-dpi.gc.ca/cio-dpi/index_e.asp.
When this page is downloaded the &-amp; in links are being replace with &, which no longer validates.
Daniel.
I am talking of any link passing more than one parameter. We are coding them with &-amp; for page validation purposes.
Here is an example: http://www.cio-dpi.gc.ca/cio-dpi/index_e.asp.
When this page is downloaded the &-amp; in links are being replace with &, which no longer validates.
Daniel.
I just loaded that page with its links. The two links under "Find Information" contain & symbols. After downloading the site the &-amp; symbols were converted to & symbols in the links, but they work well offline when I am browsing them offline within Offline Explorer and directly from disk.
Can you tell me, what kind of problem do you experience?
Oleg.
Can you tell me, what kind of problem do you experience?
Oleg.
Oleg,
I am running page validation in batch mode on the files downloaded with OEP.
Looking at the page source, the &-amp; are converted to an &, in links with multiple parameters, on the pages downloaded with OEP.
I am wondering, if the original page source had links coded with &-amp;, can the downloaded page source of OEP have them?
Daniel.
I am running page validation in batch mode on the files downloaded with OEP.
Looking at the page source, the &-amp; are converted to an &, in links with multiple parameters, on the pages downloaded with OEP.
I am wondering, if the original page source had links coded with &-amp;, can the downloaded page source of OEP have them?
Daniel.
I see. Is it urgent for you to have this corrected? Would a month be too long?
Oleg.
Oleg.
Great.
I can wait a month.
In the meantime, I have look at a previous web site download and notice OEP use to put the &-amp; in links. Something must have change with the newer releases.
Daniel.
I can wait a month.
In the meantime, I have look at a previous web site download and notice OEP use to put the &-amp; in links. Something must have change with the newer releases.
Daniel.
Thank you! I am travelling now. I will return from my trip two weeks later and I will work on it. I will E-mail you directly once I have results.
Oleg.
Oleg.
Oleg,
Is this request still on your todo list?
Thanks.
Daniel.
Is this request still on your todo list?
Thanks.
Daniel.
Daniel,
I reviewed the source code related to the links change when translating them offline. It looks like it will be quite hard to make &-amp; symbols preserved. At least, in the cases when some symbols in URLs are & and others - &-amp;.
If it is really important, I can add an option to change all & symbols in offline links to &-amp; - even those which were not coded this way online. It should work for this site.
Oleg.
I reviewed the source code related to the links change when translating them offline. It looks like it will be quite hard to make &-amp; symbols preserved. At least, in the cases when some symbols in URLs are & and others - &-amp;.
If it is really important, I can add an option to change all & symbols in offline links to &-amp; - even those which were not coded this way online. It should work for this site.
Oleg.
This would not help,
since I am trying to find where in links the &-amp; are coded as &.
OEP 2.9 used to keep the &-amp within an offline or online link on the dowloaded page source.
Daniel.
since I am trying to find where in links the &-amp; are coded as &.
OEP 2.9 used to keep the &-amp within an offline or online link on the dowloaded page source.
Daniel.
Yes, but many things were changed and optimized since 2.9 version. It will take much time and efforts to revert back.
Oleg.
Oleg.
Hi Oleg,
I wonder if you could have another look at this.
thanks.
Daniel.
I wonder if you could have another look at this.
thanks.
Daniel.
Sorry for the late answer. I tried the link above to have it as a test page, but the site doesn't respond. Do you have some other page, so I could work on this option?
Thank you!
Oleg.
Thank you!
Oleg.
Hi Oleg,
When EXPORTING a project with the KeepAMP, I notice the following:
From this page
http://www.expenditurereview-examendesdepenses.gc.ca/as-se-fra.asp
The link under the Recherche black button is keeping the & characters but
the second link in the sidebar are being removed while exporting.
It seems that if the href contains the "http://" characters then the amp; characters are kept, but if it's a relative link like the one for the sidebar, they are being removed.
Can you have another look.
Thanks.
Daniel.
When EXPORTING a project with the KeepAMP, I notice the following:
From this page
http://www.expenditurereview-examendesdepenses.gc.ca/as-se-fra.asp
The link under the Recherche black button is keeping the & characters but
the second link in the sidebar are being removed while exporting.
It seems that if the href contains the "http://" characters then the amp; characters are kept, but if it's a relative link like the one for the sidebar, they are being removed.
Can you have another look.
Thanks.
Daniel.
Actually, I didn't make the keep amp option for the export. Do you need it?
Oleg.
Oleg.
Yes, this would be helpful in our page validation process.
Danie.
Danie.
OK. I made this. Here is the updated oe.exe file version:
http://www.metaproducts.com/download/betas/OEP3720.zip
Oleg.
http://www.metaproducts.com/download/betas/OEP3720.zip
Oleg.
Thanks Oleg,
I tried the updated version on a small site and it's working on the downloaded files as well as on the exported files.
Thanks again.
Daniel.
I tried the updated version on a small site and it's working on the downloaded files as well as on the exported files.
Thanks again.
Daniel.
OK. Very good!
Oleg.
Oleg.
Hi Oleg,
I just notice that when using the KeepAMP as a command parameter, the exported pages will keep the amp; but the actual link that contains them, will no longer get the .htm appended to them, for a downloaded page.
I can send you directly a link to a small web site for testing.
Daniel
I just notice that when using the KeepAMP as a command parameter, the exported pages will keep the amp; but the actual link that contains them, will no longer get the .htm appended to them, for a downloaded page.
I can send you directly a link to a small web site for testing.
Daniel
Yes, please!
Oleg.
Oleg.
Oleg,
I have received and tested the newer version you sent me, and it's working.
Thanks again for your great support.
Daniel.
I have received and tested the newer version you sent me, and it's working.
Thanks again for your great support.
Daniel.
You are welcome!
Oleg.
Oleg.
Oleg,
I now notice that if the URL with a query string is longer than about 175 characters, the downloaded pages gets truncated and appended with a series of 10 characters or digits.
This can be tested with the same domain I forward you before.
Can you have a look.
Thanks.
Daniel.
I now notice that if the URL with a query string is longer than about 175 characters, the downloaded pages gets truncated and appended with a series of 10 characters or digits.
This can be tested with the same domain I forward you before.
Can you have a look.
Thanks.
Daniel.
Daniel,
Yes, this is normal. Windows doesn't allow to create very long filenames. So, Offline Explorer truncates them and adds a unique code to make sure the truncated links are different.
This feature exists for many years in Offline Explorer.
Oleg.
Yes, this is normal. Windows doesn't allow to create very long filenames. So, Offline Explorer truncates them and adds a unique code to make sure the truncated links are different.
This feature exists for many years in Offline Explorer.
Oleg.
Oleg,
It seems the link within the project page are having a different unique code for those long URL's.
Possibly cause by the extra "amp;" characters in the URL itself.
Daniel.
It seems the link within the project page are having a different unique code for those long URL's.
Possibly cause by the extra "amp;" characters in the URL itself.
Daniel.
OK. Fixed that. Here is the update:
http://www.metaproducts.com/download/betas/OEP3767.zip
Thank you!
Oleg.
http://www.metaproducts.com/download/betas/OEP3767.zip
Thank you!
Oleg.
You are good! It works.
Thanks again.
Daniel.
Thanks again.
Daniel.
You are welcome!
Oleg.
Oleg.
Oleg,
I notice the following:
A page would download without being recoded with a unique code when it's filename would be short enough. But then when it is a linked page that contains the amp; then the linked will get recoded with a unique code, which would make it unbrowsable.
I was able to reproduce this behavior on the same web site you are using for testing this.
Can you have a look.
Thanks.
Daniel.
I notice the following:
A page would download without being recoded with a unique code when it's filename would be short enough. But then when it is a linked page that contains the amp; then the linked will get recoded with a unique code, which would make it unbrowsable.
I was able to reproduce this behavior on the same web site you are using for testing this.
Can you have a look.
Thanks.
Daniel.
Oh, sorry for that!
http://www.metaproducts.com/download/betas/OEP3769.zip
Oleg.
http://www.metaproducts.com/download/betas/OEP3769.zip
Oleg.
Thanks Oleg.
I have found other issues but I wonder if they are created with the way our application works.
I will keep you posted.
Daniel.
I have found other issues but I wonder if they are created with the way our application works.
I will keep you posted.
Daniel.
Yes, please keep me informed.
Oleg.
Oleg.