OE stores downloaded files in a single directory per server and directory name. For some forums, images apparent in the thread may be linked from different servers. In fact, this is pretty much the norm for the forum that I`m trying to download.
It`s an art board. Someone posts a photograph (ie: BOB.JPG) and other people submit their drawings from that reference. Many times, they use the same file name (ie: BOB.JPG again). These images are linked from servers other than the forum host, but the filenames are the same.
I cannot seem to force OE to distinguish between different files with the same name. For example, if two people submitted a linked reference (on different servers) to a file of the same name, the OE download of that site will have clobbered one of the files. Both references will resolve the first file, or both references will resolve the second file.
In case I`m not being clear enough, start with this URL:
The file that I`m using to test with is "Laetitia.jpg". Two different files with that name were linked from two different servers by two different posters. And yet OE will show only one version of the "Laetitia.jpg" file for both references. Essentially, the OE downloaded version of the forum is wrong.
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I have tried all of the File Modification Checks under the Project tab.
I have tried activating File Copies under the Advanced tab.
In every test, OE still clobbers files. I am guessing that the File Copies option is for renaming files with the same name, between different download sessions. How can I rename files with the same name, during the SAME download session?
However this way Offline Explorer may download the same links many times again and again, so you have to watch the Queue all the time.
An interesting mode. It did something interesting to the HTML fragments that OE downloaded, but had no impact on anything else. The download folder is filling with many copies of the same HTML files:
But the latest-downloaded images are still over-writing earlier versions.
And the performance is unworkably poor. It has taken 20 minutes to run a project that without that parameter, took less than two minutes (and it`s not yet finished).
Is there anything else that I can do? Why doesn`t the File Copies feature resolve this problem? I had imagined, on first reading the Help file, that this was precisely what the feature was for.
Adding the /NoURLs parameter to OE.EXE seemd to activate the "Make Copies" feature. Although badly; it was far too slow to use. But only the HTML files had a datestamp added to their file names. The image file names were unaffected.
The problem is that OE`s offline version of the site has simplified the linkages for "Laetitia.jpg" to just "/thedrawingboard/Laetitia.jpg" in the download folder. The various "Laetitia.jpg" files actually come from different servers, but this fact is apparently disguised by the Download.PHP convention.
Even if there were "Laetitia.jpg" files in other folders, the HTML copy that OE makes of the PHP forums directs all "Laetitia.jpg" file references to "/thedrawingboard/Laetitia.jpg". This means that every reference - via Download.PHP - to "Laetitia.jpg" looks the same. Since I`m trying to use OE to monitor an art forum, it`s rather a problem if everyone`s sketch submissions look the same. ;+)
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Are you interested enough in the problem to try this yourself? The base URL is:
No Level Limit.
I`m downloading TEXT, IMAGES and USERDEFINED.
TEXT is set to use URL Filters.
IMAGES are Load from Any Site.
USERDEFINED will load from the Starting Server.
Protocols are HTTP, HTTPS and FTP.
Load files only within the starting server
Load up to  Links on other servers
Load files only within the starting directory and below
Filenames [CUSTOM] Download.php and Viewtopic.php?17348
Keep old files  copies
Use date / time [YYYYMMDDHHNNSS]
I earlier referenced the posts within that particular thread where you can see OE fumbling the "Laetitia.jpg" links.
Also, please change the URLs field of your Project by adding the following line after the URL:
Then click the OK button and redownload the forum.
First, thanks for sticking with me on this. I appreciate you spending time on this problem.
I downloaded the update and added the new parameter. Following, I turned off the File Copies mode and re-ran the project. The "Laetitia.jpg" file is displaying properly for the two references that I listed above!
Very interesting: there are no longer any images in the base /thedrawingboard/ folder.
I used "Save Target As" on both references, and they both defaulted to DOWNLOAD.JPG. Were the images downloaded to my HD by OE during the project event? Or are they downloaded from the servers after the OE download, when I use "Save Target As"?
The command I just added to Offline Explorer stops it from saving images under these duplicated filenames. They will be saved as download.php@id=.... This looks a bit weird, but at least it will make unque filename for each of the images.
The offline version of the PHP forums that OE is making is now accurate. The updated *.EXE and the switch resolved the image-clobbering problem. This is excellent. Thanks!
But: when I try to save the images that are framed with /download.php?id, the filenames default to Download.jpg. All of them. Files that I know are named Laetitia.jpg are coming up as Download.jpg.
For viewing the forums, this is not a problem. For collecting (manually, with <right-click> Save-As) the images that are posted to the forums, this is not so good. Every new image that I try to save to an artist`s folder will be called Download.jpg. The next image that I try to save will also be called Download.jpg. Is it the same image, or a new one?
* Before, OE reported the proper filename for images framed with /download.php?id but it clobbered older image files.
* Now OE can distinguish between different images with the same (original) name, but it renames everything to Download.jpg.
Can OE do both things? Distinguish between files and still keep the original file names? Am I asking for too much? ;+)
I`ll give that a try; thanks.
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I didn`t get a chance to test this until tonight.
Unless I`m doing something wrong, the recent update did not resolve the problem.
I installed the 2096 binary and re-ran the Laetita test. The configuration still includes "Additional=SkipDisposition". All images framed with the Download.php widget still default to Download.jpg when I choose either "Save Target As" or "Save Picture As".
Thanks! I`ll try this out tonight.
Without the "Additional=SkipDisposition" line, OE`s behaviour has reverted back to its initial state. It is clobbering earlier files (from different servers) with later downloads of the same name. The "Save As" defaults for the offline forum copy are now correct, but the wrong images are displaying.
I checked the OE binary, and it`s 2096. I ran the Laetita test twice, just to be sure. Am I doing something wrong? I`ve been using the same settings for this test (with the exception of the "Additional=SkipDisposition" line) all along.
Thanks for spending time on this. I appreciate it. However, the proposed workaround just isn`t practical for my intended application. Perhaps this functionality will appear in a future version of OE.